



Alright. So tonight standing around I took the opportunity to ask the young man in my class who was so bothered by the picture of the bird what the deal was.
His eyes widened slightly. "It wasn't personal," he said.
"I know that. I wouldn't ask, otherwise."
And then he told me about how after Freshman year he had hoped he would never have to look at another fire hydrant, hubcap, or pigeon on a subway platform again. He invoked the word cliché. And he told me he thought it brought the other images down.
Which are reasonable thoughts to have about it.
I was about to write that the question of separation of the images had already been dealt with, but I suppose there are simple things to learn here. Something about grouping, sequence, etc. But, in this case, I'm going to overrule those issues, because the greater issue is of a difference of opinion in regard to the edit.
Perhaps this is a roundabout way to think about it. But I think the merits and flaws of the photograph are fairly obvious. It's not an abstract image, full of depth and symbolism, or overflowing with the "human spirit" or "hope in the face of adversity." With some pictures, it is what it is. This sounds dismissive, but I don't mean it to be. Part of me wonders, and sometimes worries, that I'm a bit too attached to the "straight" shot. By that I don't mean unmodified (which we won't even think about getting into here), but in regard to an image "trying to tell me something."
Are these conflicting ends of a spectrum? I'm talking in big, broad, fundamental outlooks, here. Our sweeping, Ansel Adams at a lectern statements.
"The moon... can only be photographed... at... f 11, with a 2 % cyan filter, and an exposure of no fewer than 47 minutes." [Uproarious applause.]
Do any of you view photographs in this way? As, on a fundamental, even unconscious level, that some images seem to simply be, while others seem desperate to tell you something.
I think the thing that can really get on my nerves with these kinds of images is that often, an image can be doing something unusual, or confusing, or drawing attention to itself, and you can be pulled into looking at it, and thinking about it... and it ends up being a stupid piece of shit. And it doesn't even have the decency to know it!
It doesn't know that tight jeans are annoying in the eyes of older people, or that piercing and tattoos are oddly cliched photographic elements as well, or that sex is inherently an awkward, sensitive subject, and that it takes deep consideration and... well, basically, they're like mines.
And we, aspiring, young, inexperienced, semi-educated photographers can only paddle worriedly through an ocean of cliché.
How do you do this?
The only method that I know, from my own experience, is that you have to attempt to photograph with the mindset of a little girl.
How else can you explain why it is that every photographer, every photographer eventually finds him or herself drawn into shooting flowers?
We're like moths; we can't not.
I accept this, because I must in order to continue to love photography. We will all be repeating subjects with historical precedent. There is nothing we can do to avoid this, other than being aware of the predecessor's existence, and having thoughts on their work, which, if we're any good, we should have some insight on their work, since we're obviously two people who share an interest.
So to all you freshman photographers, figuring out what shutter speed means (my big realization right now; underexposed pictures look kind of amazing if you're shooting on high-quality glass), squeezing off shots of your first real-life bum, or sleeping man, or the ferry at Staten Island, all you millions of cliched photographers; I'm right there with you. Don't let your edit go cold. Include your brother's birthday party. Take a picture of you grandmother's dog, but take it very seriously. Try to pose the dog against a regal background.
Take pictures that say absolutely nothing at all, but are interesting in and of themselves, as pictures. Two things I've internalized lately; turn your flash off and it's never too dark to shoot, or more precisely, try to shoot.
If you can start doing that, and know that you're doing it, I say have an edit somewhere that's for fun, and not only "portfolio" stuff. What does that even mean?
I'm just in a good mood. I was taught recently how to print digitally, and I found myself pleasantly thrilled at the quality of the output. They printed wonderfully, and not only that, I was shown how to do proofing easily and economically, in such a way that you can even work around an uncalibrated monitor by simply making minor adjustments based on print test strips instead of histograms and bullshit. If you happen to be near bright sunlight under which to examine the print, this is a big plus. There isn't a light that gives information about real color more reliably and powerfully than sunlight.
I made a few prints with large areas of heavy black to see if the matte Harman paper I had in storage in my locker would be able to get good results.
Expecting loss of detail early helped me have realistic expectations, but what I really wanted to know was, "Can I get the details on Christ?" And they're there like it aint no thing, resplendent in rich, beautiful, muted tones. [Editor's note: We are aware that rich and muted are not complimentary terms; unpaid assistance appreciated.]
Good week. Although I could have done with a day apart for those two mid-terms. Yeash. I'm always a burnout at the end of the week.
Don't ask me why this image looks like it's from a negative that was carefully stored at the bottom of a bus driver's pocket. I don't know. I could get the dust, and I would if I wanted to print this, which I think is inadvisable, but that hair/scratch doesn't look like it's going anywhere. If it bothers you, does it help if I claim that it snowed early in NY this year? Also, you can tell at night I get much more stalker-ish about photographing people. And most people accept this! They don't know if you're wasted, or a cop, or what. If you're not popping your flash in people's faces (which I still try to be respectful about), they seem to accept that being out at night on the street means they will be photographed.
Admittedly, less so in the Bronx and Uptown than in downtown Manhattan.
But enough that it feels normal. Also, another big epiphany was in my demolishing my aversion to landmarks. What a fool I was! A famous location is a perfect photographic pass. If you're near one, you're fair game.
Before work on Sunday last week, I stood in front of Tom's Diner on the corner of 112th and Broadway, holding a cup of coffee and photographing with abandon. Tom's, but mostly the people outside Tom's, and people photographing Tom's, or being photographed standing in front of Tom's.
Everyone shoots in, around, and especially in front of Tom's. Tom's is that stupid diner that was the exterior location of the diner in every episode of Seinfeld. After deriding them for years as rube tourists, I now find myself walking with them, sharing their moments, elating.
We're here together, stranger. Let's share this moment forever, and it will be weird.
Let us pray.
Wednesday, October 21, 2009
Did I just have a genuine spiritual moment?
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I'm not sure how insufferable it is for me to come comment on my own posts; but often it simply makes sense. Minor developments, further thoughts, later realizations. All of these things seem perfectly placed as an addendum to a post-proper. Anyway.
Today was an extremely photo-centric day, which I'm sure at this point is probably no surprise at all. The morning was typical; procrastination and WHFR, two things that seem perfectly designed for one another.
Actually, I'm going to leave my shooting experience for a proper post, since I feel like it's one of the more valuable things that someone might visit for.
But... yes, so... further photography related conversations at school. That's right.
I had a few people tell me personally since the "official" critique on Tuesday that they liked what I had up, and that they thought the amount of heat I took about being impersonal and failing to achieve "intimacy" was a bit ridiculous. To reduce intimacy only to the physical act is absurdly close-minded and uncreative, was the vibe I was getting.
I could only nod, and thank them, and feel good about things. I'm starting to have very rudimentary realizations that learning to take a compliment may be something that I should be thinking about as much as how to handle criticism. I would hate to realize that after two months of producing relatively promising work that I can live with I become an insufferable egotist. How can you express tentative excitement? Is there a way to be satisfied by your own work without being smug?
I finally had the opportunity to show my current work to my first-year introductory professors. When Gustavo, my biggest "stickler" professor, walked in and someone said, "Hey, Gustavo, check this out," before he could look at them I said, "Oh, Gustavo won't like these; they're underexposed and out-of-focus."
But I got the impression he liked them fine.
Maybe the answer, for me anyway, lies in, when I take them out and lay them down, to not talk about them. At least not to volunteer a comment, but only respond and accept.
That seems healthy and attainable. Critique makes you think only in terms of debate, sparring, defending, justifying. These are natural elements of it.
But taking an image out of an envelope and showing someone is different. They're doing you a favor by looking at them at all. Silently, internally, you probably can't help yourself trying to interpret, from their comments, whether they got what you were going for, or like it for another reason you hadn't thought of, or dislike it for knowing what you were going for and thinking you failed (which is their right, and even their responsibility, as knowledgeable respondents, and probably some of the most valuable commentary you can receive), or disliking it without being aware of what you were going for, or misunderstanding it entirely.
[Still following? I'm off in the deep, abstracted bullshit domain now.]
Perhaps that is why I've transformed this space, recently. Conversational etiquette demands that all viewpoints are created equal, no one has final say, and... you know; we're still friends tomorrow. But here, at least, I can try to understand where I think they're coming from, and see it through, at least for me.
But today I had a long discussion with Arturo where we caught up with one another on our current work-in-progress and all that. This felt much more productive; it was a "work" talk. We talked technique, viewpoint. That's it. It was a good conversation. I felt like I learned something from someone with his own perspective. Arturo's work is very formal, and very minimalist, from my perspective. He seems similar to me in, if not an aversion to taking portraits, at least a commitment to taking them seriously. This, as with me, forces him to grapple with landscape often. He has a strong, clear internalized sense of an edit, and brevity. He set a standard in critique early on to not show mediocre work. From my perspective, some of his pieces work better than others, but this seems natural and inevitable. Maybe I'll ask him if he'd want to give me some of his stuff to post and talk about.
Later, though, I had a conversation in which I was asked about the conclusion of my pigeon enemy. I talked a little about what I thought it meant. My classmate told me she absolutely agrees with him.
My curiosity piqued, I delved. Part of me is amazed that people have thoughts on this image at all.
It's like a truck. A truck's a truck, you know? A picture of a truck... it's a picture of a truck. (Sorry, I was shooting construction workers this morning.)
What it boiled down to, at least according to my "keyword" subway notation, was a simple vote of no confidence. We spun around one another, not really connecting on either Shore or Eggleston (who I was confused to be talking about it the first place, although I suppose parallels could be drawn between the position of early color snapshot work with contemporary B/W snapshot work, maybe, at least in terms of approach to subject; mindless). I felt like we had different ideas on the significance of vintage photo postcards. She seemed to think that their significance lay in their history, or in the heartland, or something. I see them as a photo only; something to teach.
"Louis, you said you'd buy this. What do you like about it?"
"Don't take this the wrong way, but I'd put it in my bathroom. I love that New York stuff."
Exactly.
That's as far as the manufacturer's warranty can extend on this one. Read deeper and perish.
Her final point, though, was that the image was simply not worthy to show, and effort must be exerted to attempt to create a "show-able" image.
First, I was a little taken aback. What?
Then, trying to respond, all I could think of was, "What? You don't show something not worthy? That's no fun!"
What do you do with your funny shots?
I feel more cemented now, tonight, after all of this, to continue to process approach to subject like a little girl.
If I go back to evaluating subject analytically, waiting for inspiration, I'll go back to utter stagnation.
Araki said he wished he had a thousand arms, like a Buddha, and in each hand a camera.
In closing; this is perhaps why I enjoy the technique side of things over the "reference" approach. In reference, we not only don't know one another's, we probably have vastly different ideas about the references that we are both even cognizant of.
When we talk technique, what I think of as the "Japanese" photographic approach, a lot of the theoretical stuff fades backward and let's us look at the picture for what it is; some part selectivity and training, some part divinity.
With the damn bird, talking about composition just seems futile. "Yeah, but composition is random when you can't move without the bird flying away." This, as technicians, should just be known. But often, it isn't because we don't talk about it enough. My policy is keep no secrets.
I often wonder if photographers are looking for some "secret technique" that will whisk them to fame and fortune. (For reference, I'm rooting for poverty and oblivion.) Do photographers keep secrets from one another? Is there such a thing as a patentable technique? They're all in books going back centuries now anyway, in whatever language you happen to speak.
When I discussed them with another professor (an art historian), we skipped entirely over subject, and talked process workflow (which I felt necessary, knowing of his darkroom experience), book collections, his early education in Oriental art, my bit of requisite Columbia-oriented bookstore theatrical drama. (Said; not a patient, humble man.)
That was fun. Let's do this again.
Then you say, "Ugh, maybe never you boorish simpleton."
Then I say, "Aww," and look crestfallen.
For the record, i approve of your use of addendum.
Also for the record, I like the pigeon shot. I do like the composition, too.
And more to the current topic, I really really like the second shot in this post. And the first, too, but to a lesser extent. This 'dark church' stuff is good... I'd be interested to see more in this series. (BTW, speaking ever so loosely of religion, remind me to tell you about the Margaret Atwood off-site I did the other night...)
Technique versus reference is always a delicate balance in art. I think there might be a few more sides to that, too, but I can't quite think up what they are right now. Perhaps this is old hat, or perhaps this is exactly what they try to teach you in art school, but I believe that the mark of a good artist is finding this balance.
Yeah... I have the suspicion that my verbosity's run a bit amok, but... it's definitely helping me work through things.
Thanks! It's weird what pisses people off. The funniest thing is that it took me years to get that shot, which I'd vaguely wanted since the first time I saw a pigeon on a subway platform. This kid acted like it was the easiest, laziest thing in the world, but I think if he weren't such an arrogant, pig-headed jag-off, and actually tried to get one, he'd find it difficult. Who knows? Maybe he's Ghost Dog.
The dark shots are probably, in my opinion, the finest work I've yet made. The details of their process are somewhat embarrassing (but not complicated, if one felt like guessing). I'm hoping that if I can recreate the results, it will allow me to be comfortable in talking about them a little more. And, unfortunately, they're on one of the school's finest cameras, meaning logistical problems for further work. No wonder people get sucked into medium format and refuse to leave, despite the (to me) devastating expense. The results are really, really pleasing.
(Also, I added the last banner to the post, which is part of the series. I have a quality ink-jet print of it, as well. Maybe soon-ish I can start making prints for people. Although I think, policy-wise, I'm definitely not supposed to print anything that isn't for an assignment. I have to find out if anyone at all follows that guideline.)
I want to read some of Atwood's recent stuff. But I definitely think you should first and tell me if I should follow. :D
Have you picked up Schismatrix again yet?
Also, to be clear, I'm not trying to draw a binary between technique and reference. There's definitely a lot more that can be brought in, or left out, in terms of process, and you're totally spot-on in picking up on that.
I'm only, in this case, referring to the act of conversing about work, and even more narrowly, with other photographers. Even then, there's a lot more that we could be talking about.... It's definitely part of my dissatisfaction with a lot of the discussion.
Then again, it's not all bad. So really, even more narrowly, I guess I'm only referring to this conversation. This person and myself don't connect well in discussing photos, period.
Oh, two more things:
First, thanks for the Exphostor love. I really appreciate it. Your opinion means a lot to me.
And secondly; reference doesn't have to fail. If you're at all aware of what it is about whatever or whoever you're referencing, you should be able to explain this to whoever you're talking to, regardless of whether or not they're familiar.
Which is obvious. But, since these are often conversations involving participants that *don't* know how to talk about work meaningfully, names are often invoked without any effort at qualification or clarification.
Man, that show tonight wiped me out! Hopefully we weren't too insufferable.
Nice... I really like the added picture, too. You definitely have to expand this series.
Wait, why aren't you supposed to print anything that's not for an assignment? That strikes me as strange.
If Atwood's stuff is anything like the reading, AVOID IT. Since I forgot to explain it in person (or am I repeating myself?), I'll mention it here:
The event was for Year Of The Flood. It takes place in the future, after a flood has come and cause an apocalypse. Already, you may have guessed at the religious connotations. It's really piled on thick. In fact, the story revolves around some people in this made-up future-religion called God's Gardeners, a religion based on self-sustainability and being "green." Not a horrible idea, I suppose, but what is horrible are the jokes. For instance, Atwood made a big point at the event mentioning Saint Al Gore. At one point I got excited because I thought she mentioned Saint Damo Suzuki, but she actually said Saint David Suzuki.
Also, since the book dealt so heavily with her made-up future-religion, she wrote hymns for the religion which were interspersed throughout the book. This event took advantage of those hymns, and had a live band performing them. UGGGGGH. What could have been a somewhat cheesy reading was turned, essentially, into a totally cheesy church service. And I am now forever turned off to Margaret Atwood.
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