Twice recently I've managed to piss off classmates with not-very considered comments. Each time I've found myself somewhat surprised. For the most part, as I've gotten older I've found my sense of humor, and that odd adolescent drive to say something "controversial" and shocking, has mellowed and cooled. I don't really have any particular investment in upsetting anyone anymore, for the most part.
Which I suppose is why I find myself a little off-balance when it happens anyway.
In critique today I pissed off a classmate good and plenty. How did this happen?
First, perhaps, it might be necessary to give some degree of context, and background. In brief: this classmate and I have been in the same department from the same starting point. We've shared many classes, instructors, and prior critiques. We rarely have conflict. In fact, you could tentatively say that we're friendly, though probably not what, strictly speaking, you'd call friends. In a lot of ways that count, we're essentially almost strangers.
(It also must be made somewhat clear that when I say "critique," I'm using the term extremely loosely. Nearly no one in my class is interested in learning to discuss photographs intelligently. It took me two years to realize that it wasn't going to just happen automatically, and that I better read a fucking book or ten on the matter, because, to me, it's important as hell. About as important as I can envision.)
Her work. Prior to this semester it was very restrained, formal, and nuanced landscapes, and a smattering of sensitive portraiture. This semester she took pictures of her television, showing Midnight Cowboy, and began exploring a sequence of self-portraits. A drastic and violent shift inward, which I wouldn't say alarmed me, but certainly caught me off guard. This should be exciting, no? A new direction. An inward gaze frightens me, somewhat. I think it may be one of the most challenging directions a photographer can take their work. Which, to me, means that it has a far greater chance of failing miserably than succeeding splendidly. The impulses to clean, protect, and beautify are almost irresistible. To me, that's pure poison. A glowing, siren-shrieking bio-hazard symbol.
She's expressed an interest in using a high ISO. This is something that I've been a little surprised to see as an emerging collective preference of a lot of my class's work. My thoughts on this are far from formed.
I would say that, often, I'm impressed with what she does. I think she has great potential, and feel confident that if she continues producing photographic output that she will amass a fine body of work.
Fair? I'm not blowing smoke. I would say that she had a bead on her methods and style much earlier than I did; she's been moving toward it almost since our first semester together, whereas it's taken me until just this semester to begin to get a handle on what I want to be shooting, and how.
That being said....
There are two issues in evaluating the images we were looking at today.
The first is that it was an assignment involving compositing. I should say upfront that I am somewhat biased toward this technique. As with anything, it can be utilized very well, with a level of mediocrity, or poorly. Mostly what I've seen have been the latter two. I get the tremendous application potential, and the strength and flexibility that it grants toward commercial imagery. But as with any specific photographic technique, I think it requires a great deal of practice and nuance, training, foresight, and talent in execution. It seems, to me, to be a much more painterly approach toward image making.
Simply, it's not really my thing.
It's one of the more concrete, specific iterations of the hackneyed "film vs. digital" debate. A debate that, at least in my school, everyone seems quite content to ignore.
Image building, versus image making, perhaps. Fantasy or straight photography.
Still, we execute assignments because, in this school, that is part of what we do.
The second issue has to do, again, with personal bias.
The image that sparked our brouhaha was an overlay, double exposure type thing combining a portrait I'd seen before and a film still, taken from a photograph from a television, from Midnight Cowboy.
Things I've seen before. But not, to me, an evolution or development of these pieces I'm familiar with. Everything that had irked or concerned me about the film capture appropriation approach was still present. As well as a rising sense of boredom.
So we started talking.
Talking about a piece is different than writing about a piece. In writing, I have the opportunity to return to what I've written and ruthlessly edit, refine, and make clear what I'm trying to say.
In conversation, I have a hand full of darts. About four. And I throw.
"A feminist critique of this work would criticize the feeling of domesticity emanating from that television screen."
Oy.
What a fucking idiot I am. Men a thousand times smarter than myself have probably made personal, internal pacts to avoid discussing anything related to "feminism."
The response: immediate anger.
Problem: her reaction was to tell me that, essentially, my reading was wrong because it absolutely did not match her intentions as the executor.
My response was that we were now discussing a question of authorial control (what I had meant was authorial intentionality), and that my stance was that she had no claim to a right to veto my statements. (In what I think of as a "straight" photo, an appeal to return to the actual subject of the picture wouldn't have been out of hand; but at this level of abstraction, I claim that I can think what I want with a greater degree of validity.)
All this came from my wanting to examine questions of an inward gaze, and the inherent domesticity of a television screen. Eventually I managed to come around to what I'd wanted to in the first place; that isolation and insulation are more generic human conditions than ones specific to a gender, but the whole thing was well and truly fucked by this point.
It ended in conversational armistice. Everyone was only interested in attacking me for a statement that, to me, I had already nullified.
"Be angry," I said, again bored, and now frustrated.
The rabble made comments they took as clever; it's not that deep! Don't be a nerd! A later photograph was prefaced by its taker with, "There isn't, like, a concept," to which someone replied, "Don't worry. Someone will make something up." (The work was far too boring to bother thinking much of anything. And also, in an extremely ironic state of affairs, so was my own composite tacked to the wall that we failed to have the time to get to. Although I still choose to congratulate myself on a display of competent masking, if not anything particularly clever.)
You know what? Fuck right off. Your eye-shadow isn't externalizing your anguish, millenial.
What I would have liked to have happened (and I suppose, as a lesson that can be learned, what I'll attempt to do if anyone manages to say anything about one of my photographs that makes me angry) is for someone of a cool temperament to say, "Let's unpack that statement."
Because when I rode the train home tonight, tired, having shot something that I was trying to figure out, and replaying the critique in my head to figure out how exactly I'd detonated that bomb, I unpacked it myself.
I said the opposite of what I'd meant to say.
What I had meant was, "A misogynistic reading of this work would say that the feeling of domesticity emanating from that television is a byproduct of your being a female photographer."
Which probably would have pissed her off even more; but at least it might have been true.
Now pardon me while I go memorize lines from In the Company of Men & Oleanna.
Monday, October 5, 2009
Jerk? Nerd? Oh, why decide?
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Excellent.
I heard an interview with Matt Malloy shortly after "In the Company of Men" was released. He said that a woman approached him on the street and said "I hate you".
He replied, "You mean you hate my character from In the Company of Men".
She replied, "No, I hate you."
It's an intense movie. I'm not sure you want to quote it in crit...
Another day, another frustrating unraveling of a critique. All of which is so far from what I *want* to be focusing on. Nothing that I'm doing is certain; I feel threatened that at the first sign of some progress I'll turn complacent.
A friend in class today lent me a camera when I asked him if he had an extra medium format that he didn't use.
I feel quite excited about it. Tomorrow, friend, we'll try it.
Tonight, though, I desperately want to unwind. I'll have to trawl Netflix for something decent.
I've got to get my head right. Is it wrong to withdraw mentally from a group if you feel it can only drag you down? I'm feeling constantly stifled; that not only are my ideas and analysis (which consist of basic, rudimentary observation and impression, and a bit of technical curiosity, at times) are unwelcome, but even the idea *of* an analysis is offensive to some of these people.
"It's not that serious."
Read a fucking book, man. Or at least focus on your texting and keep your goddamn mouth shut.
Today I found myself so angry that I said aloud that there were students in the department that didn't give a shit about the discipline they're there to study.
Which is a stupid thing to say. I know that. I don't set out to endear myself to everyone, but I don't set out to make enemies either.
The problem is, I meant it.
What do I do? I don't like being around people that will mock me for loving something important to me.
Early in the semester I sent work to two professors... perhaps I should make this more regular, and widen my pool of potential recipients.
Ah. Wrote that little addendum before seeing Brad's comment.
Yeah. I really like those movies that sort of burn with anger and intensity.
That one, though, is quite possibly one of the cruelest movies you can find.
LaBute's a bizarre guy, if you ever read about him.
Ah, peer crits. I had a few classes in the arts dept at my college where we had critiques. It surprised and disgusted me when I learned of the official art students' inabilities to critically analyze art.
Also, the architecture dept at my school was infamous for making students cry at the professor reviews. Shocked, I asked some of my archi friends about it. Turns out that they, too, could not actually analyze their own material (and had never done so before), and were crushed when professors laid honest criticism on their work.
After those experiences, I decided to never bother with art school. But i don't think you should give up. Keep looking... find someone who actually cares. There must be at least one other person. And I like your idea of trying professors. Some of them should actually care, right?
Nice comment.
I have great professors.
(I've had some duds, also, but mostly outside the department.)
I wonder if my early professors that gave me grief about my wet-darkroom output would be interested in what I'm doing now?
I'm reading Hegel, and I've been considering who it is that gives art its theory? Has intention left the artist and flown in the critics lap? Hegel implies that art is to become a philosophy, which one can validate with 20th century art, and especially photography. I heard an intelligent artist once remark that the critics should come up with a new language so that the artist could expand. It is sad to see the artist's demise, it is sad to see that they can no longer think critically on their work. Just as the current trend in parenting, the artist doesn't judge it's children (art).
Ryan,
Thanks for writing about my work. I'm glad it interests you this much. Don't feel so angry during a crit. We can't always be right.
I think you should shoot more than you talk/write. Then people might actually talk about your work..
-Erin
It's always odd and unexpected when a post actually fulfills its potential for some form of dialogue.
Nikki,
I thought the Hegelian mafia had finally found my blog. "We're coming in and taking over this bitch."
Then David told me that you feverishly muttered a positive endorsement of "crit rant."
You're sweet. Thanks.
Go back to sleep! Get better soon.
PS: I started Simon's The Corner a few days ago. Such phenomenal sentences and dialogue. Let's trade schools for a semester; I can flunk you out of the Philosophy department and you can transfer me into fashion/textile design.
Erin,
I am unable to determine whether you are being facetious. For this reason, I will forgo a direct response.
*But* if you are interested in discussing my "process," as it were, here or in person, in public or in private, I would be open to this idea.
Have you started a blog yet? You are welcome to link to your portfolio site as well, if you want to give any interested readers a chance to view your work. I didn't feel it was my place, given the nature of the post (in relation to others on this site).
Actually, I lied. I will respond, at least to a very fragmented bit of it.
I don't mind if people, currently, don't talk about my work.
I actually use a filtering process. Both in terms of who I show my work to (although I guess you could say the internet destroys that concept), and in the weight that I allocate the response, in terms of making modifications to my own belief systems in regards to photography.
This isn't special; we all do it every day.
But I do it deliberately, and very carefully.
People, unfortunately, have to be qualified to be taken seriously.
That is why I write and talk. Because when I say something, I want people to know that they are talking to someone that takes this shit very, very seriously.
God dammit it's so hard to check your blog because most of the surfing I do is at school and I've been afraid of the porn. And I missed this! I was totally going to comment on the two newer posts until I came down here, too.
Your critiques sound a lot more intense than mine. I should say, rather, that your thoughts alone about one other student's work far exceeds the sum of every thought about every work coming from every student in my critiques. Usually there's an HCI kid who says he doesn't understand what's going on. I mostly just snipe people for attempting to venture into things they don't understand.
Nobody ever argues with me. Everybody thinks herself a critic, so I don't get a lot of the "It's just a simulation of how race works in America, Simon" stuff. But unless they're saying something nice, they have no idea what to say. Sometimes, after I snipe someone, they'll tell me before class that they're going get me. Then they throw some nonsense out there like "why isn't this in there?" when that obviously isn't what I was working on at all.
In short, I'm jealous that you have another student whose work you can care about this much. And people who will shoot back and upset you. It's been a really long time since anybody has upset or frustrated me.
@Nikki: I actually don't think most people hold that intentionality is dead. You'll get a lot of poststructuralists quoting Barthes, but that doesn't really matter if most people really do care what the artist thinks. The next step is to back off a few more feet and recognize that while the artist is responsible for criticizing herself... that very critique becomes a part of the work that the viewer/critic has to take into account. So the artist critique isn't dead... it's just more art than idea.
Simon:
Thank you for your amazing comment!
The porn is a problem. Someone should tell the blog-owner to stop posting it. :D
A question: HCI equals hard-core-internet?
Also, I would probably hate you if you were in my class; I never know what I'm talking about. Haha.
Also, an incredibly dense question: what is it, again, exactly that you do? Do you do game design? Game theory? Digital spaces? Film?
Do you have work online, that you show people when they ask what you do? Thanks.
I still have to e-mail Mr. Lantz. I really, really, want to photograph the game center (although I suspect that it might be a typical beige on beige institutional nightmare, so B&W might be appropriate).
Oh, and by the way, though I obviously lack the capabilities to enter into a Hegel discussion authoritatively, I want to say, please continue! For the moment, as you both summarize your understanding of deeper concepts, I can follow you quite easily, and find it fascinating.
Oh man. This post is a total Pandora's Box.
Today I had a long, very in-depth discussion with my classmate whose work I had attempted to talk about. And we covered a lot of ground. We talked for almost an hour, never deviating from the subject of this post and its repercussions.
I know, right? Repercussions. From my fucking blog. What is the world coming to?
So there's definitely something here; something sensitive and tender and carefully maneuvered around. Something at the absolute core of something shared amongst many people, of many disciplines, of many schools.
Which, of course, means there's something here that's valuable to talk about.
My classmate found out about the post from a third classmate Facebooking her about it. This third classmate was not of the four classmates who I had given a business card containing the URL to in the previous weeks and months.
Meaning that my impression of my perfect, harmonious anonymity and obscurity (to my class) in relation to my output here was a complete falsehood!
And so now... well, now what? Do I censor myself?
Of the many things we talked about (and I sincerely hope she doesn't mind me discussing our talk; I just am really glad we had it, and it's really on my mind, which was why we had to have it, etc) was by the time she's heard of it, it was already a public thing. A public thing being perceived as an attack.
Which, in reviewing it, that is of course an obvious way that it could be interpreted, even in a moderately non-cursory way.
That's one thing that worries me tremendously; that my classmates will read it only to scan for potential insults to one of our shared... well, colleagues. It's easy to forget with prolonged familiarity, but that's what I see us as.
And I've obviously got issues with getting angry, and I can write, and I have something that functions as both journal and public forum.
An analogy for what I'm doing here that occurred to me while having this mammoth, rewarding discussion (seriously!), was of walking by a glass window display, and looking in, and seeing people on treadmills, in Crunch or NY Sports Club, or wherever. Lost in their own mind, running. They're sweating and making faces and are completely lost in what they're doing, and they have no idea that I'm seeing something incredibly personal.
And that's me on that treadmill.
Sometimes, you look ridiculous when you forget that someone will see what you say.
And that's another thing we talked about. Whether it was, essentially, responsible to put something like that out there.
Basically, my class feels like it's falling apart. And I can tell that this is largely my fault.
My conversationalist companion informed me that, often, when I talk, I sound like I'm talking to hear my own voice.
Ha. Not true! I'm waiting for someone to tell me I'm wrong and misguided because X.
I do feel tempted to talk less.
My professors are providing a lot of encouragement in this regard, though.... I think they get bored, as well.
Correctness and encouragement do not make interesting discussion. (We all need encouragement, definitely, myself included, but, to me, the polite golf-clap following a brief, surface-level analysis rings ridiculously hollow. You applaud performances. We're looking at images. Wrong venue. If you want to compliment someone, and therefore encourage them, wrack your brain and think of something resonant.)
What we're figuring out, shakily, is how to talk about a work, in depth, with the owner there, in a way that doesn't explode like a fucking molotov.
And we've been failing miserably.
My frustration comes in when the whole endeavor gets slagged by people thinking about what they want to do later.
If your mind is elsewhere, why not just let *us* talk? We're conversing.
So I said some insulting shit, about these people exhibiting this behavior.
It was rude, but I'm not going to lie; I meant it to be.
If a classmate reads this, deeply, and finds themselves offended, I ask that they present themselves, again, here or in person, and I'll listen to your complaints, and explain or apologize, if appropriate and as necessary.
But keep in mind, if it sounds like I'm insulting you, it's not that I don't like you. It's that you're interfering with the education I'm paying for, or that something about your work bothers me, which may mean that there's something interesting there that you can utilize (to accentuate that irritation), or that you may be hearing first what you may hear later from someone that doesn't know you and therefore doesn't give a toss about your feelings.
I try to, believe it or not. I really do.
Which brings us back, again, to self-censorship.
Fuck that.
Shit.
If I can't speak my mind here, it means I literally don't have the bravery to speak my mind, period.
You don't like it? Start a blog. See what happens. See if you don't attempt to express something, possibly including frustration.
I said, today, in justifying my ridiculous earnestness here, that I fucking hate, loath, despise photographer's blogs where they are too cautious to post good work, too polite to post cattiness, and so self-centered that they think I want to see nothing but behind-the-scenes, set-based wankery, or an unedited sequence of scans. [Edit!]
And if you write long enough, you may just get good at it. And I think you need to be. But hey, what do I know?
Not much.
I'm a bad cross-blogger. After leaving my last comment I departed to play three huge games and make an interactive fiction, which I just finished and so can now resume discourse :)
I'll try to do this in rough order. HCI stands for "human-computer interaction." Basically UI and UX (user experience) design. The department at Ga. Tech has two Masters programs, one in HCI and one in digital media. I do the latter, and my focus there is game design and critique. But HCI and DM share classes, so a lot of the time our primary interests and ethics clash in critique.
I really didn't like how your classmate told you that you should take more pictures and write less. I'd reply that maybe she should take less pictures and think more. Which is rather beside the fact that you're clearly taking fucking pictures all the time, as evidenced by your blog that is filled with both them AND your writing/thoughts.
I don't have too much of a problem with self-censorship because 1) I'm rather open with classmates if I have something negative to say to them, and I'll stick around to explain it to them if need be and 2) my department links to my blog, and professors and prospective students look at it all the time, so I knew I was never anonymous anyway.
I post my work on my blog when I publish it, and usually it's tagged "school projects," but I'll link the most recent few:
http://minify.me/?4fm3nt
http://minify.me/?89w8w4
http://minify.me/?bdxe2x
http://minify.me/?5b9cnt
http://minify.me/?6qzrsq
The last one is a very rough (alpha) prototype. A lot of the stuff made before these four were learning exercises that I don't really show anyone.
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