Tuesday, October 13, 2009

Something finished. [What what?]

Alright. I know that this demands some form of commentary. After all, if I'm attempting to challenge myself and talk about work; why not my own?

I'm working on it. But... damn it. I finished something massive, and relatively satisfactorily. There are definitely problems with it, which maybe I'll get to, although tonight I was thinking that extended artist's critique (rather than statement) may possibly sabotage a work. I think, fuck it.

I've got more work in me, and this is early. Why not sabotage away?

So... I'm working on that.

But if you want to slam it before I get to it, be my guest!

Things that have already been pointed out; potential racism of only portraying Chinese wholesalers, due to the racial diversity of the field.

Response: dude. I know. All I know are the semi-arbitrary limitations that I imposed on myself starting out. I draw a pretty nuanced line about executing photographs dealing with race, while attempting to be careful about racism, which, in photography, can exist in both portrayal of stereotypical behavior, or even in technique, surprisingly.

But I find that, in photographing race, (which wasn't how I viewed these, but more as a question of nationality, or, perhaps since I'm a white [urban?] suburbanite, internationality) one rarely gets stereotype. If you're an honest person, and can perform an edit; what you get is reality.

Besides, there's not even a person in these. Don't you need people? Maybe Confucius is racist, these days. (That is who that is, right?) Anyway.

(Also, amazingly, my dictionary of all things, pointed out that Confucius' name is a Latinization of a word meaning "Kong the master." Kongfuze ([K'ung Fu-tzu]. That's way cooler! Stupid Latin.)

Also, the wide, establishing shot, contains non-Chinese wholesalers, and is therefore something of a lie; as well as, for including cabs, a somewhat poorly composed shot.

Response: dude. Check the rooftop. See the scanner artifacts? That shit was straight.

Tell me that's a bad composition. [insert eyes-crossed emoticon.]

Also, color and B/W mix oddly; atmosphere of surveillance (which the audio would intensify, certainly). Also, my excellent professors are blowing my mind with their fancy educations; and are exposing me to the inherent unreliability of photography as truth (of course), although I maintain that such a thing exists, and is valuable to sports photography, and nature work. (Although the conclusion I came to was that the responsibility for photographic truth lies with magazine and web editors, whose responsibility it is to value and vet the work they pass forward.)

I don't care about modification, yet.

Let me take a good picture first.

Oh, and a last thing to point out as already covered is that I still suck in Photoshop, and can make my expired-film, underexposed shots (the first two colored pieces of signage) look more like, you know, an appropriately made photo. (I would like to hasten to add that only those two are "underexposed," [p'shaw, as if such a thing existed], and that it's a real testament to the power of a 120 negative that the colors are still, to me, absolutely gorgeous.) When I mentioned Roe Ethridge (perhaps lamely attempting to protect my "decision" by citing a known and established shooter), I was told, politely, that work like that is "sentimental."

Which was super on-point! This was meant to function as "documentary."

In that; I failed.

Ha. Maybe it's all covered.

[Shooting notes, multimedia instructions (some user assembly required!), and audio, if I listen to it and it's interesting, to follow. I have a show tomorrow night that needs material = perfect opportunity.]






















5 comments:

Lin Swimmer said...

I'm curious, from Nikita and Simon's discussion, do you see this kind of exercise in documenting "process" as part of the work?

Am I betraying the "artist's" responsibility; ruining the social contract between executor and viewer?

For the Japanese photographers, they have a much deeper history of photographic, textual accompaniment. Western photographers tend to either hide their (seeming) vapidity (Warhol has made an entire army of simpletons suspect; the fucking art "persona" is a big irritation to me, although I can see its value in deflecting criticism by coolly embracing it. Warhol was so beautifully unassailable by telling those that hated him that they were totally right and that his work was meaningless), or they're those that are intelligent, but keep their ideas separate from the initial viewing of the work.

As you can probably deduce, I favor the Japanese method!

Setting Sun: Writings by Japanese Photographers, published by Aperture, is one of the books that's most influenced my early understanding of not just the importance of "context," but as an absolutely overwhelmingly forthright educational supplement. They're so unguarded; it carries great power, especially when their work gains a certain magnificence.

No sense at all of secrecy or protectiveness, mostly as a byproduct of their industry being shaped and expressed more through publication than exhibition.

[Man, I'm just pouring words tonight.]

Lucci said...

funny how i was going to comment on a lot of what this is saying. fact is you are going to school in america where most people don't care about every nuance of photographic history and theory (myself included). i don't think either side is right or wrong. art is whatever it is to who ever sees it. i don't give a damn how much history you put behind an image, if it speaks, it speaks. you will continue to be frustrated with how most people view photography simply because they don't have the same "japanese" mindset on what the medium is or does. end sentence, man. that's the facts jack.

Lin Swimmer said...

Truth!

Although I might caution that it can become difficult to discuss "America."

We also live in NYC; an undeniable haven for people that know what the fuck they're talking about.

Some of those people have money, and some of them own businesses that may be in a position to give me money for pictures.

When I meet those people, I'm attempting to avoid embarrassment.

(And, of course, there are lots of people with money that don't know what they're talking about; although I do think that, barring being born into American-style economic royalty, a certain cold-blooded cunningness is usually a prerequisite.)

But I have been giving a lot of thought to the difference between an image that, like the Struth jungle shots, really essentially needs commentary, and the opposite, like the photojournalism I post, by others, that strikes me. There's a caption, and it's crystallized fact, and other than that the image screams its impact.

Of course, I think both are possible in the same photographer.

Perhaps the first is easier.

But if so, why does it feel like I'm working hard at that element of it?


From what I can see, attempting to do without is relying on statistical probability. An "eye" assures, what, 10% probability of an "acceptable" image. So 1000 shots (no small undertaking!) produces 100 that are functional.

The question then becomes; can you find them?

And then can you find the 5 in those that could last past your death? And give them the care in the polishing and presentation that is required?

Genuine, not rhetorical questions here.

Lin Swimmer said...

Also, I'm an idiot. Unless Confucius is traditionally represented in those five (!) iterations; that cannot be Confucius.

Which still leaves; who the hell are those guys?

Lucci said...

let me preface my comment by saying i was "of another mindset" last night when i posted my comment.god bless the ancestor that discovered the ability to smoke a plant and alter one's perception. and beer. thank them for beer too.

onward and upward:

"But if so, why does it feel like I'm working hard at that element of it?"

i agree, why are you working hard at it? i don't know your brain well enough and can only make assumptions, and even those are half thoughts, because i simply don't think the same as you do. ruminate on that question, ask it over and over and find your own answer. i, admittedly, don't understand 75% of what you put on your blog, never was an academic in any sense, much less in linguistics.

"From what I can see, attempting to do without is relying on statistical probability. An "eye" assures, what, 10% probability of an "acceptable" image. So 1000 shots (no small undertaking!) produces 100 that are functional.

The question then becomes; can you find them?"

this baffles me to no end. do people actually believe arbitrary numbers will help them make good images? i cannot fathom myself personally falling into that mental trap, and it delights me to see you're trying to avoid it. imagine the uncertainty that that brings to everything you shoot. dude, talk about scaring the shit out of someone. not to mention, that statement has no scientific basis, an image working or not is not a math equation, there are no rules, only matters of taste and opinion.

i don't know what to tell you about finding them because as stated before, taste and opinion changes. something that you hate now could be "the one" later...

"And then can you find the 5 in those that could last past your death? And give them the care in the polishing and presentation that is required?"

ha! how about this, maybe not worry so much about your images living beyond your death, and live life? it seems silly to me to worry if i've created the work that will out live me. others will decide that, and i'll be long gone so i won't have any say in it anyway.

and lastly: polish. give it to everything you do, put that effort into everything, no matter how time consuming, how unsure you may be. learning is failing. but failing isn't always learning, you know?

so there you have it, i'm not a literary person, and 75% of what's on your blog goes over my head, and i'm not going to front like it doesn't. i will not try to impress you with my linguistical gymnastics, because often i can barely cartwheel.

i don't think i could provide you with any insight that would benefit you, i can only state my thoughts on it, but i'll probably stop doing that in written form. i think your email to me earlier was talking about commenting and discussion being like a fight and to be honest i'd rather never speak a word again than feel like i'm battling every time i want talk. i'm sorry if my comments are lackluster and aren't intellectually stimulating. but hey, can't be everything to everyone, no?

oh and i can't seem to convince my wordpress to let people comment, and i don't have the energy as of right now to try and trouble shoot the code. meh.